Are aliens real or not?

[michaelsmith]

People have talked about whether aliens are real or not for thousands of years. Some ancient drawings over fifty thousands of years. Some ancient drawings over fifty thousands years ago are thought to be the first pictures of spacecraft. The first person to use this name was an American, Kenneth Arnold. On 24 June, 1947, he was flying a small plane in Washington in the USA when he saw something strange. “I was looking out of the window,” Arnold said, “when I saw nine saucer-like things in front of me.”
Two other Americans, Charles Hickson and Calvin Parker, said that aliens took them into a flying saucer! They were fishing on the Mississippi River in the USA on the night of 11th, October, 1973. it was a dark night. The two men were sitting in their fishing boat when they saw a bright light. It was hanging in the air over the water and it looked like a flying sauer over the water. Then three aliens came out of the flying saucer and carried Hickson and Parker into their spacecraft. In the spacecraft the aliens looked at the two men very carefully and then took them back to their boat. “The aliens were in a pale colour and had very small eyes,” Hickson said. “But they didn’t hurt us.”
In 1983, Pioneer 10, an American spacecraft, went into space. On the outside of the spacecraft are 13 pictures of men and women, and a map of space. If aliens find Pioneer 10, they will know how to get to the earth.

[a_lost_packet_]

People have talked about whether aliens are real or not for thousands of years.

Really? For thousands of years? !!

Some ancient drawings over fifty thousands of years. Some ancient drawings over fifty thousands years ago are thought to be the first pictures of spacecraft.

"Over fifty thousands" huh? Wow...

Q: "Are aliens real?"
A: We don't know. We don't have any information to suggest we've met any yet.

[mental_avenger]

Aliens are real! There are over 20 million of them in the USA right now, and more crossing the border every night.

Uh….. sorry. Forgot we aren’t supposed to feed the trolls.

[jim48]

Welcome to SDC, Michael. You'll be chatting with a lot of very smart people here. Too bad I am not one of them. We have a forum called The Unexplained, home to all kinds of fascinating UFO threads. At this point I would urge you to head there and I will ask the moderator to move this thread there as well. I look forward to reading more of your stuff!

[yevaud]

We have a forum called The Unexplained, home to all kinds of fascinating UFO threads. At this point I would urge you to head there and I will ask the moderator to move this thread there as well.

Kaor, your wish is my command.

[a_lost_packet_]

UHOH! INCOMING UNEXPLAINED!

Hang on kids! Here we go....

[mabus]

People have talked about whether aliens are real or not for thousands of years.

They really haven't. People didn't even know there were other planets on which people could potentially live on until a couple hundred years ago.

Some ancient drawings over fifty thousands years ago are thought to be the first pictures of spacecraft.

The problem really is one of context. If I show you an ink blot of something and you have never seen a goat you will not see a goat in it. If you have seen a goat, and I show you the ink blot you may interpret it as a goat. We live in a society which is familiar with the concept of flying vehicles, so when we see images drawn by ancient people we interpret then in a context we are familiar with. I agree that some of the stylized images from ancient civilizations look to me and you like flying aircraft, but that does not mean that they were actually drawing flying aircraft. We have to be very careful about making such claims.

The first person to use this name was an American, Kenneth Arnold. On 24 June, 1947, he was flying a small plane in Washington in the USA when he saw something strange. “I was looking out of the window,” Arnold said, “when I saw nine saucer-like things in front of me.”

This was around the time that metallic mechanized flying airplanes began to take to the air. Before this people had not been used to ever seeing anything man made flying up in the air, and the sudden appearance of "flying aircraft" spawned all sorts of hysterical reportings and sightings. It was worst in rural places who were entirely unfamiliar with aircraft and became terrified when they began to see more and more strange craft in the sky. Pilots began to see things too, as they would go up and see strange craft in the sky in different angles, unfamiliar with how light can play tricks on you, and on how perspective can affect what you think you are seeing.

This only got worse once planes became equipped with electronic instrumentation allowing for night flying. These planes were equipped with lights, some blinking, some not, but all of them visible to the citizens down below who began reporting "strange lights in the sky" suddenly.

Two other Americans, Charles Hickson and Calvin Parker, said that aliens took them into a flying saucer! They were fishing on the Mississippi River in the USA on the night of 11th, October, 1973. it was a dark night. The two men were sitting in their fishing boat when they saw a bright light. It was hanging in the air over the water and it looked like a flying sauer over the water. Then three aliens came out of the flying saucer and carried Hickson and Parker into their spacecraft. In the spacecraft the aliens looked at the two men very carefully and then took them back to their boat. “The aliens were in a pale colour and had very small eyes,” Hickson said. “But they didn’t hurt us.”

The first alien abduction story actually came from Betty and Barney Hill years earlier (1961 if memory serves me?) Their account has since been entirely debunked but it popularized the idea of alien abductions and ever since people have been reporting being abducted by aliens.

In 1983, Pioneer 10, an American spacecraft, went into space. On the outside of the spacecraft are 13 pictures of men and women, and a map of space. If aliens find Pioneer 10, they will know how to get to the earth.

Thusfar none have made contact. Nor has Seti (the scientific attempt to contact alien life) ever found a trace of evidence of any attempt to communicate.

[cosmictraveler]

Believing in UFO's and Aliens is anyones opinion. Just remember it is only a belief so far, not a fact.

[Eman_3]

I do believe that there are other life forms out there in the great galactic expanse. But little green men visiting Earth, kidnapping people, and inflicting the standard anal probe, no.

There have been over fifty years of reports and yet, even with cameras and other recording devices, zero proof. No photographs, sound recordings, or any physical evidence.

Lots and lots of stories, but ZERO PROOF.

[Wellington1114]

I do believe that there are other life forms out there in the great galactic expanse. But little green men visiting Earth, kidnapping people, and inflicting the standard anal probe, no.

There have been over fifty years of reports and yet, even with cameras and other recording devices, zero proof. No photographs, sound recordings, or any physical evidence.

Lots and lots of stories, but ZERO PROOF.

There are hundreds of photos, and videos. Alot of them are kept in their respective governments, which are starting to be released. Many reports of wierd signals on ham radios and other devices too. Many of them have been proven fake, but alot have lived on.

[quantumnumber]

I do believe that there are other life forms out there in the great galactic expanse. But little green men visiting Earth, kidnapping people, and inflicting the standard anal probe, no.

There have been over fifty years of reports and yet, even with cameras and other recording devices, zero proof. No photographs, sound recordings, or any physical evidence.

Lots and lots of stories, but ZERO PROOF.

The "little green men" is a just a stereotype. A lot of people think of aliens like this. What if there are alien bacteria-like lifeforms out there somewhere? I do not believe that aliens have come to our planet, nor do I believe that abductions have occured. I have watched a lot of videos on youtube of people creating hoaxes. However, I do believe that other lifeforms may exist somewhere else in the universe.

[StarRider1701]

I do believe that other lifeforms may exist somewhere else in the universe.

I too believe in life. Just look at the downright stubbornness of life existing in some of the harshest places on our planet, places where it was once thought that nothing could live. Given the sheer size of our Galaxy, much less our Universe, the probability of life is an absolute certianty.

[Wellington1114]

Either way the ufo phenomenon is very interesting. Either the Government is lieing about the existence of ETs for one reason or another. OR they are just doing a really crappy job protecting us. I can recall several accounts where fighter jets have been scrambled to "intercept" a ufo, and that the outcome was, they know nothing about what they were after. (multiple times)

[Smersh]

... I can recall several accounts where fighter jets have been scrambled to "intercept" a ufo, and that the outcome was, they know nothing about what they were after. (multiple times)

Hi Wellington, yes there have been a number of reports about incidents like that, including the alleged incident involving the Iranian Air Force over Teheran in 1976, in which a couple of F4 pilots are said to have been involved in a "dogfight" with a UFO. Not a good idea by all accounts and they were lucky to have survived.

http://www.nuforc.org/Teheran.html

[Wellington1114]

Indeed. The way I look at it is, if anything came into our airspace, the government would know and respond to it as a threat. Which is what happened at Roswell, followed by the report that they recovered a flying disk. The rest is history.


From my knowledge none of those reports about military jets intercepting UFOs had any casualities on either side. I think that is a little suspiscious, thats a live or die situation.